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K wrote:Is it weird that I'm a huge Hobbit fan, but I don't want to watch any of it until I can see it all at once?


Nah. I've been waiting to see if Game of Thrones ever finishes before starting to read that series. I can empathize with not wanting to be stuck waiting after having your appetite whetted.

I'm probably weirder in that I don't care if I read books/watch movies completely out of sequence. I don't know why, but it doesn't spoil a thing for me usually. Given the choice I read things in order, but it's not a deal-breaker for me to go other ways.
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Totally understandable. Waiting a year between installments can be a pain.

But I like getting excited about stuff coming out, which is why I buy Dresden books the day they come out. A few other authors get that treatment, too.
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Saw Les Miserables today...blew me away. I've seen it on stage, but this movie has ruined any stage production for me. Magnificent performances by almost everybody...Russell Crowe's was merely "good" (but still not bad by any means). I've heard some people don't like the way they did the singing, but I thought it made many of the numbers much more emotional; non-stop punches in the feels.

Anne Hathaway I particularly enjoyed...I was pretty much weeping almost any time she was on the screen.
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Les Miserables has great music as always, but the movie itself was a train wreck of bad decisions. The cinematography was incredibly dull. It was like the director was being paid per close up. The number of musical numbers that completely ignored all camera work and the fact that you are a movie dwarfed the number that actually did not. Empty Chairs and Empty Tables was sung by Marius in an empty, burned out cafe. He sits in a chair looking distraught the entire time. Valjean's entire blocking for his soliloquy is "pace back and forth." The camera did not once leave Fantine's face for literally the entirety of I Dreamed a Dream; it was an uncut and dull shot of Anne Hathaway's face the entire time through. Stars and Javert's Suicide actually used the camera to aid the storytelling, with Javert literally toeing the line in the former, and slipping into the abyss at the end of the latter, but I can't remember a single other piece that did so. This blocking wouldn't fly in my high school theater class. At least my high school theater class did the thing in Empty Chairs with the ghosts. The movie, despite being way better equipped to do that, decided to do something far more boring. Marius barely even moves for the whole song. Cinema is a visual medium, you can't carry a scene just on someone sitting in a chair and staring.

This is on top of the fact that a limited runtime meant that they had to cut a lot of songs really short. Attack on Rue Plumet was cut down to just about nothing, and while I never understood why the most tense song in the production was given to a dilemma by a secondary character with little impact on the main plot, it was still one of my favorites. Castle on a Cloud was cut short. Dog Eat Dog was completely omitted.

And of course there's holes in the Les Mis' story in general that need addressing. Cosette is a plot device with a cardboard soul, which makes Marius and Valjean's obsession over her in the second act kind of hard to swallow, and seem fairly shallow, especially in Marius' case. Any "I have fallen completely in love with this person I met last Tuesday" story is going to ring hollow unless, like Romeo and Juliet, the story has the decency to point out that it is a really stupid, short-sighted relationship. It's particularly a slap in the face since Eponine is both a very good friend and extremely understanding of Marius, whereas Cosette is just pretty. This is exactly the opposite way of how I want the story to go, and then the story expects me to be happy for Cosette at the end, when the girl who actually did stuff and was a good person is rotting in an unmarked grave.

The music is spectacular, but music doesn't make a movie. It makes a soundtrack, which has always been the best way of experiencing Les Mis to me.
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Chamomile wrote:And of course there's holes in the Les Mis' story in general that need addressing.
Were these holes in the movie adaptation or the original musical?
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I haven't seen the movie. Valjean loves Cosette because she is his adopted daughter and he raises her for nine years. I really don't think his strong feelings about her need much in the way of explanation. Marius and Cosette decide that they have fallen in love with each other before they have actually spoken to each other, literally kissing and confessing love in the same encounter where they tell each other their names. So that's just sort of dumb.

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Chamomile wrote:And of course there's holes in the Les Mis' story in general that need addressing. Cosette is a plot device with a cardboard soul, which makes Marius and Valjean's obsession over her in the second act kind of hard to swallow, and seem fairly shallow, especially in Marius' case. Any "I have fallen completely in love with this person I met last Tuesday" story is going to ring hollow unless, like Romeo and Juliet, the story has the decency to point out that it is a really stupid, short-sighted relationship. It's particularly a slap in the face since Eponine is both a very good friend and extremely understanding of Marius, whereas Cosette is just pretty. This is exactly the opposite way of how I want the story to go, and then the story expects me to be happy for Cosette at the end, when the girl who actually did stuff and was a good person is rotting in an unmarked grave.
Agreed. Also, the woman who played Eponine was incredible. Seriously, she's so much better than essentially everyone else in the movie (except for maybe Anne Hathaway, who I liked a lot, but she's gone an hour before Eponine appears) that it's a little disconcerting.
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http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2013 ... -to-fight/

Oh wait, that piece was serious. Sorry about that.
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Hey, you can still call it entertainment.
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Whatever wrote:http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2013 ... -to-fight/

Oh wait, that piece was serious. Sorry about that.
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Whatever wrote:http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2013 ... -to-fight/

Oh wait, that piece was serious. Sorry about that.
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Fuck no, but crazy people be crazy.
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ishy wrote:So Americans are allowed to kill people who try to take your guns? So if the police tells you to drop your guns, you're now legaly allowed to shoot them?
Whatever wrote:Fuck no, but crazy people be crazy.
Don't listen to Whatever; the cops are asking for it if they try and take your guns away. Because guns don't kill people, people kill guns.

Wait...
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Sometimes I suspect that the Gun Nuts really took Zardoz way too seriously.
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PhoneLobster wrote: -snip- Zardoz -snip
Holy shit, I didn't even know this existed. This looks all kind of awesome. Top of my netflix list...NOW!
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No wait! You fool, you don't know what you are doing!
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Oh... I know exactly what I'm doing. I'm exposing my wife to this. That's what I'm doing. *cue maniacal laughter*
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Shrapnel wrote:
ishy wrote:So Americans are allowed to kill people who try to take your guns? So if the police tells you to drop your guns, you're now legaly allowed to shoot them?
Whatever wrote:Fuck no, but crazy people be crazy.
Don't listen to Whatever; the cops are asking for it if they try and take your guns away. Because guns don't kill people, people kill guns.

Wait...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk
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I got the last book of the Wheel Of Time today.

Evidence would suggest that Graendal and Demandred held the Shadow's entire supply of complete badassery. The two of them are justifying pretty much all of the Forsaken's reputation by themselves. Much ass is getting kicked on both sides. Also Mat remains himself.

Also, I wish to inform everyone that I fucking called something:
Demandred is in charge of Shara.
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